Thread: The Gamergate Thread

Since I hate myself, I decided that it would be a good idea to make a thread about Gamergate on this site…

For those of you who don't know what Gamergate actually is, it's a manifestation of a culture war over gaming culture diversification, artistic recognition, social criticism of video games and the gamer social identity. The goal is to improve the ethical standards of video game journalism by opposing social criticism in video game reviews, which some see as being the result of an unethical conspiracy among their ideological opponents — particularly those in favor of feminism, progressivism and social criticism.

So what do you think of this whole debacle? Whose side are you on?

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Since I hate myself, I decided that it would be a good idea to make a thread about Gamergate on this site…

For those of you who don't know what Gamergate actually is, it's a manifestation of a culture war over gaming culture diversification, artistic recognition, social criticism of video games and the gamer social identity. The goal is to improve the ethical standards of video game journalism by opposing social criticism in video game reviews, which some see as being the result of an unethical conspiracy among their ideological opponents — particularly those in favor of feminism, progressivism and social criticism.

So what do you think of this whole debacle? Whose side are you on?

um WHAT i dont understand what a gamergate is and i still don't.

so argue about games ? and other game related stuff ?


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Here is everything that should get you up to speed on the situation:


Corruption in gaming journalism and competitions, and the resulting demand for disclosure and ethics reform.

A game developer sleeping with a journalist who then gave her game very favorable reviews (when the gaming community thought the game was not very good). She also got a gaming fundraiser shut down just before starting her own gaming fundraiser.

A PR agent sleeping with the head judge of a game festival and her clients' games winning.

Outrage spreads to Twitter, among other online forums.

The two women above, as well as others related to the industry jump into the heated discussion online. A few receive death threats. All sides condemn harassment and threats.

Gaming journalists publish articles declaring "gamers are dead" and paint them as cis white male misogynists who hate women in their previously-male-dominated industry. The allegations of corruption are not addressed.

Gamers outraged at the "anti-gamer" sites who ran the articles stereotyping and shaming their own fan base.

Gamers note that 10+ sites all ran similar talking-points on the same day, and suspect an industry-wide issue. They dig deeper into the web of industry relationships and uncover more conflicts of interest, but also a suspicion that radical, anti-male feminists (often referred to pejoratively as "social justice warriors" or SJWs) are driving the narrative in the press.

Gamers are upset that SJWs are deflecting the issue of corruption and turning it into one of misogyny and harassment of females in the industry. Articles that emerge in the BBC and Guardian do not mention the original issue of corruption, but focus on the death threats.

The female author of the Guardian article is shown to be financially supportive of the women she defends in her article. She is called out on it publicly.
Gamers are convinced this is proof of the corruption.
SJWs are convinced this is proof of the misogyny.

In response to SJWs accusing the #GamerGate movement as being driven by mostly cis white males, minority gamers who support the movement tweet with #NotYourShield to tell the SJWs they don't need anyone speaking for them.

Sigh. I'm sorry Darkstar, but as I said before, try to keep the threads clean. Otherwise, RatchetGamer will have to lock this emoji

Sigh. I'm sorry Darkstar, but as I said before, try to keep the threads clean. Otherwise, RatchetGamer will have to lock this emoji

Clean?
Is there anything wrong with this thread?

Not yet. But it could start a really trashy argument.

I don't think it should start any "trashy" arguments, as long as we all stay civil. We are usually pretty sensible around here.

I have not got a lot of interest in GamerGate due to it not really having any direct impact on me. I'd rather not jump into wars I have no place in. But I do feel game journalists need to be very honest and upfront about the game they are reviewing. If they have bias they should identify and explain it. But that applies to everyone in all industries, not just game journalism.

Everything after that point, I need not jump into.

All I think is: ''Who cares, corruption is everywhere''.

The safest bet would be to not trust anyone else's opinions… actually on second thought, that's really bad advice.

It is, actually. Lucky us some people have the same opinion.